MX-19 Beta 3 available for testing

October 4, 2019

Last beta before RC!

Updated iso images

–direct download:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-linux/files/Testing/MX-19/

We are pleased to offer MX-19 Beta 3 for testing purposes.

As usual, this beta includes the latest updates from debian 10.1 (buster), antiX and MX repos.

Xfce 4.14

GIMP 2.10.12
MESA 18.3.6
updated firmware
Latest debian 4.19 kernel

Browser: Firefox 69
Video Player: VLC 3.0.8
Music Manager/Player: Clementine 1.3.1
Email client: Thunderbird 60.8.0
Office suite: LibreOffice 6.1.5 (plus security fixes)

and more in the MX repositories.

–New and updated mx-apps

mx-installer (based on gazelle-installer) fixes pertaining to automount issues.
MX Date & Time, to make clock setting chores easier
formatusb, for formatting usb storage devices
mx-packageinstaller now displays version number for flatpak applications.
mx-alerts package for sending emergency messages to users.
mx-updater no longer requires a password to check for updates (still required for installation of updates)
new wallpaper artwork (mx19-artwork package)
updated themes
tons of misc. updates to the mx tools.
most help files are now available on the iso
updated FAQ

-antiX live system changes

The latest antiX live system updates, included improved support for hyper-v and kvm.
improved support for frugal installations on ntfs devices
live system now boots with a informative text-based boot splash.
“safe” video boot mode from live boot menus should get you to X when all else fails.

-Improved localization
almost all mx-apps received translation updates (we love translators)

Misc.

sysVinit remains the default init system. systemd is available as a boot option on installed systems (but not on live systems). In other words, exactly the same as MX17/18.

Set your gtk scaling in Appearance, log out/log in and Qt apps should follow the scaling set.

New conky configs (conky-manager for selections)

Known issues with beta:

Run all updates before installing nvidia drivers.

Some users with intel video chipsets may need to use “i915.invert_brightness=1” boot code as some machines apparently have brightness values backwards in the driver. There are also new options in the various live boot menus for this.

The beta will receive updates over time through the repositories, but certain items, such as the live system and some user settings defaults, will not be obvious without some user intervention. Beta isos will always report themselves as beta versions in quick-system-info and inxi.

Please place any general feedback here: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback thread

Any specific bugs can go to our Bug Manager at bugs.mxlinux.org

If posting hardware issues, please post the output of “quick-system-info” from the menu or terminal, at a minimum.

If posting nvidia-installer issues, please post the contents of /var/log/ddm.log.

If posting remaster issues, please include the contents of /var/log/live/live-remaster.log

If posting installer issues, please include the contents of /var/log/minstall.log

If posting issues with MX-PackageInstaller “Popular Apps”, please post contents of /var/log/mxpi.log or /var/log/mxpi.log.old (whichever contains the log of your issue).

Thank you!

Dolphin Oracle (on behalf of the MX Dev Team)

37 thoughts on “MX-19 Beta 3 available for testing”

  1. The beta will receive updates over time through the repositories, but certain items, such as the live system and some user settings defaults, will not be obvious without some user intervention. Beta isos will always report themselves as beta versions in quick-system-info and inxi.

    RC= Release Candidate

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  2. @D O,

    Normally beta versions update to RC , Final & Full versions.
    Is there a difficulty here ?
    Surprising, as MX is a pioneer in offering many customisations* with a mean & lean size.
    [* Unthinkable or never considered by it’s contemporaries who bring about only bloatware with just greed in their minds.]

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  3. Running very well: incredibly fast and snappy! Technically perfect. So I really respect your brilliant work. But I still am a bit disappointed and stay on KDE neon. Why? Because:

    * the boot process is still with command line text messages, background image and then plymouth not really sexy. It is a bit baroque. That’s a pity because it should be easy to show only a small picture during booting, and then login dialog. Keep it simple! Look at Manjaro or KDE. Or better at Apple boot screen. Grey background and a MX Logo at the front. Thats all!
    * Login dialog could be desiged a bit nicier.
    *MX Logo need a small redesign (sorry! ;-))
    * Octopi Software Tool is not good choice for the masses. Plasma Discover would be much better.
    * Background screens are all old-fashioned – 5 modern ones would be enough.
    * The default panel configuration after the installation is quirky.

    All in all: For me MX Linux is still something for developpers who do not care about design, and only care about speed. It is missing graphic design manager. It looks like a solely work of developers.

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  4. Hallo

    Ich hatte schon lange nicht mehr ein solch gutes Linux
    stabil und schnell und gut zu bedienen was will man mehr
    das einzige was mir nicht gefält ist das Icon (Symbohl ) unten Links xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 1.7.5
    das könnte schöner aussehen , trotzdem ein kompliment die Entwickler von MX Linux , das wird mein Linux der Zukunft werden mit Sicherheit
    Frank

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  5. Hello,
    I am a Linux user since aprox. 2004 and since then been the usual distro hopper. The moment I knew about MX Linux and tested it that behaviour simply dissapeared. It is a fantastic work the dev team of this brilliant distro is doing! Simple, fast. Everything simply works! The balance between functionality and usability is great! Thank you, thank you very much for this excellent work.

    I am not a developer but I am very good at the English language as my second tongue, I am a Spanish speaker and if it is of any value, I would be happy to help as a translator.

    Thank you very much again. Please keep up this excellent work. Best regards.

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  6. ALL is well except ONE issue
    =========================

    I am using imwheel app to turning mouse scrolling a little faster. with default compositor xfwm4, this app imwheel has gone bonker and it scrolls so fast that you immediately scroll to the end of a long page. Can you please look into it as xfwm4 (finally my old dell latitude laptop is tear free)
    and imwheel are must for me

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  7. @Max sees mostly issues of ‘form’ that aren’t important to me.
    I do agree that the MX default panel is quite wierd, but being Xfce I can change it quickly and easily :-).
    MX is the only Debian derived distro I’ve tested that nails the ‘wireless firmware blob’ nightmare, and it works on my laptops.
    The MX-19 beta seems to fix the only bizarre problem I have with MX-18, which barely installed and runs like crap on my Gigabyte m/b. The latter apparently doesn’t like IDE mode, AHCI mode works fine but is not compatible with my unfixable WinXP installation. Arrggh.

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  8. @Mike9000: you are right: these are only design issues, if you don’t care, it is a great distro (for you). But there is only one technical issues of Debian (so not only of MX): the modern IWD (wifi) package seems still not be in stable. So MX has propably still the old “WPA Applicant”. With this I get only around 20 MBit bandwith. With IWD on KDE Neon I get full 50 Mbit.

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    • MX prizes stability, so of course that experimental package is not included. But you can install it from Bullseye yourself along with a single dependency with no problem in MX-19.

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  9. Why I still can not make the volume control of the left bar, regulate the sound of videos, songs, youtube, etc. ? I’ve been trying on all MX versions and I still can’t get it to be regulated with that control.

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  10. >> Last beta before RC! <<
    The Release Candidate is a pre-release version that already contains all the functions of the final product.

    Hope the final version will be released pretty soon.

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  11. Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

    #8

    Post by chrispop99 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:35 pm

    LysarZ wrote: ↑
    Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:20 pm
    Will we be able to upgrade to MX 19 Final from Beta 3?

    No.

    Chris

    That means we have to reinstall? Why? Is this not debian Stable Buster already? This is sad guys 🙁

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  12. In response to Edward “Did they fix the SUSPEND problem with MX not resuming video output?”

    I found this works perfectly when changing the “modsetting” video driver to the proprietary video driver > Intel in my case using MX Tweak, Config Options.

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  13. need also make a separated version from testing Debian repo as well… I download testing Debian testing bullseye DVD sets and make separate USB 16gb stick with all latest packages cause your version is very outdated and worst part MANJARO is up to date with latest packages and kernel ….why stuck 4.19…its fine but i would suggest making separate branch as well on your version is base on testing Debian packages too….so you can grow as community than just stay on stable forever and one default DE Xfce … I rather see more flavors cause generic Debian is very hard to use still with complicated issues like root access and window managers not logging in other DE …

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  14. Greetings from India , a distro hopper as usual … but no more …. i think i am settling for Mxlinux …. with my 15 yr old broken laptop… i cant ask for more when its free… i am gratefull that there are some serious developers out there trying to make a world a better place …. hope i could have contributed in someway or other …

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  15. I’ve been using MX 18 for almost a year now, and I really appreciate the MX philosophy. It might not be the prettiest distro, but it gets things done, and gets them done RIPPING FAST. It sort of like the video game BroForce, but it’s a Linux distro. It’s powerful and manly. If you want a beauty-comes-first Apple-like Linux experience, then Elementary OS is for you. Don’t ask the MX developers to change their excellent approaches, but rather go find the Linux community which agrees with your philosophy, such as Elementary OS.
    Whatever floats your boat!

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  16. Just like Max said, it needs to be prettier without giving any direction into what my totally subjective opinion of art is.
    Max critiques things without providing quality criticism. Just arbitrary “bla, it could be better.”
    Do this: Spend time redesign software that’s primary function is NOT DESIGN, but USE.

    Yes, the internet needs your opinion, never shy from voicing your opinion. No matter how under-researched or ill-thought.

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  17. Please don’t waste time and effort on a boot image to “cover up” the scrolling command line or finding “modern” wallpapers when users are free to use ANY IMAGE EVER MADE. The constant drum-beat of “modern” wallpapers in Linux distros is bizarre and pointless. There are entire websites devoted to wallpapers, so choose an unobtrusive default wallpaper that tastefully includes the distro name and major release and be done with it .

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  18. Acho que mX veio para ficar mas precisa melhor principalmente a resolução de video. É essa característica que o sistema popular é muito forte. Não sei se instalanmdo drivers propietários resolve.

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  19. I’m glad MX Linux has a fairly ugly default look. It gives me something to do immediately after I finish installation: make it my own.

    Please don’t change the default to a “meh, this’ll do, good enough” setup. Keep it real. Keep it ugly. Invite the user to tinker. New users can learn a lot about the system just by finding out how to make it look prettier.

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  20. There’s a reason MX Linux is at the top of the heap. It’s relationship with the former Mepis community and Antix helps both current distros. I’ve tried dozens of distros since 2007. MX Linux has the ease of use, stability and functionality that I need in my daily environment. I’ve installed it on netbooks, old Apple Macbooks and a variety of sundry wintel PCs vintage 2002+ Very few times have I had to resort to a really lite linux, like Bunsen Labs or other lite distro other than AntiX, the core of MX. I’ve saved a lot of PCs and Macbooks from the junkpile and many have been reborn as working machines. I’m grateful for both MX Linux and AntiX for that reason, and is a reason why I donate to both.

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  21. Good job, guys. The only problem I noticed is in google chrome where emoticons are thrown, e.g. in the comments of videos on youtube, instagram etc. there appear small squares. Maybe some fonts are missing. In addition, nothing bad is happening 🙂 I’m waiting impatiently for the final release.

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