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Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Yellowhoney
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Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by Yellowhoney » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:49 pm

So I've been running from a USB with 128gb, I have 15gb persist-root ,

my understanding is that all my application will install to persist root , but I have my dropbox, mega , downloads safe to the "MX-live-usb" /home/demo/Live-usb-storage which I thought was the remaining USB file.

is this the best way to store "data"? (movies, photo, etc )

How can I plug my USB into a windows machine to view only the "data"?
when I plug into a windows pc is see the USB drive however it formatted at ext4

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System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Alienware product: Alienware 17 v: A16 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Alienware model: 041W46 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: Alienware v: A16 
           date: 06/25/2018 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 0.4 Wh condition: 3.3/87.3 Wh (4%) model: SDI PABAS0241231 
           status: Charging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4700MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell 
           rev: 3 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 38314 
           Speed: 1297 MHz min/max: 800/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1297 2: 1297 3: 1297 
           4: 1300 5: 1298 6: 1298 7: 1297 8: 1296 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GK104M [GeForce GTX 780M] vendor: Dell driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting,nouveau unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: Dell 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Dell 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: alx 
           v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 08:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Broadcom Limited BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: AzureWave driver: wl v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 0a:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.03 TiB used: 46.11 GiB (4.4%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Extreme Pro size: 119.25 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 19.56 GiB used: 15.08 GiB (77.1%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 37 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
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           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
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           1: deb https://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/Debian_9.0/ ./
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           1: deb https://apt.syncthing.net/ syncthing stable
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list 
           1: deb http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
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Info:      Processes: 312 Uptime: 19m Memory: 15.55 GiB used: 2.72 GiB (17.5%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33 
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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by tascoast » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:44 am

I would recommend just using a second USB to store common 'data'.
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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by JayM » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:03 am

tascoast wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:44 am
I would recommend just using a second USB to store common 'data'.
Formatted as fat32 so Windows can access it too.

Another option would be to use gparted to create a fat32 partition on the live USB if there's enough free space, saving some free space for remastering. But it would be best just to use a second USB stick and copy data from the Live-usb-storage/demo directory on the live USB to the second one. You could set up a backup app that would automatically keep the data synchronised.

A third option would be instead of running persistence, do a frugal installation and choose your existing Windows partition to "install" to. This would re-label your Windows partition to antiX-Frugal and create a new directory on it which would contain your Live-usb-storage directory among other things but won't destroy any files or data on the Windows partition. It will also make your live USB run as fast as an installed MX system. If you do this, select "frugal_static". Make sure you have adequate free space on the Windows partition.
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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by fehlix » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:40 am

Yellowhoney wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:49 pm
So I've been running from a USB with 128gb, I have 15gb persist-root ,
With latest live-usb-maker you can create a additional data-partition (ntfs, fat32 or exfat) on the same LiveUSB, which is accessible from WinOS.
You could than mount this data-partition manually or permanently ( e.g. using disk manager ), and use it instead of Live-usb-storage.
To get latest live-usb-maker:

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git clone https://github.com/BitJam/live-usb-maker
git clone https://github.com/BitJam/cli-shell-utils
cd live-usb-maker
To create a new LiveUSB with a additional first data partition and also clone persist data
running from the existing LiveUSB

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 sudo ./live-usb-maker --data-first=ntfs --clone-persist
HTH
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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by Gaer Boy » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:22 am

I have had problems recently in accessing a data USB stick from Win10 laptops. When it was plugged in, Win10 offered to format it - that was the only choice. I took it to my local computer repair shop and asked him to check it. The problem turned out to be the 2 partitions on the stick - 16MB ext4 & 16MB fat32. Th guru said he runs across the problem all the time. His solution is to keep a copy of WinXP so that he can read and copy anything anyone brings in.

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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by fehlix » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:34 am

Gaer Boy wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:22 am
I have had problems recently in accessing a data USB stick from Win10 laptops. When it was plugged in, Win10 offered to format it - that was the only choice. I took it to my local computer repair shop and asked him to check it. The problem turned out to be the 2 partitions on the stick - 16MB ext4 & 16MB fat32. Th guru said he runs across the problem all the time. His solution is to keep a copy of WinXP so that he can read and copy anything anyone brings in.
Win10 can now see more partitions not only the first one, but regards the ext4 partition as "corrupt", hence it offes to "repair" with formating your ext4 partition :eek:
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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am

Oh yeah.. I have seen this when I was installing things still.. started out with Win10, the liveUSB was in the usb slot and W10 said corrupt need to format.

You need to do sh*t, I said, and clicked it away.

Prob solved there ;) Just don't hit ok and it should be fine.

I use an external drive to store data on, it is in fact formatted NTFS, but MX has no issues with that, so.. *patpat* "There's a good boyyy!!"
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Re: Using my MX live USB on windows to transfer file

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Post by Yellowhoney » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:58 am

fehlix wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:40 am
Yellowhoney wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:49 pm
So I've been running from a USB with 128gb, I have 15gb persist-root ,
With latest live-usb-maker you can create a additional data-partition (ntfs, fat32 or exfat) on the same LiveUSB, which is accessible from WinOS.
You could than mount this data-partition manually or permanently ( e.g. using disk manager ), and use it instead of Live-usb-storage.
To get latest live-usb-maker:

Code: Select all

git clone https://github.com/BitJam/live-usb-maker
git clone https://github.com/BitJam/cli-shell-utils
cd live-usb-maker
To create a new LiveUSB with a additional first data partition and also clone persist data
running from the existing LiveUSB

Code: Select all

 sudo ./live-usb-maker --data-first=ntfs --clone-persist
HTH
:puppy:
Can I do this with only the one USB , or do I need to buy another USB(2) install to a new USB (2).
2007 20* Imac running 3gb MX18.3
i5 4670k 16gb ram

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