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Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by cyrilus31 » Wed May 22, 2019 3:13 pm

I don't know if it's a concern for you and if it a decisive argument, but from reviews, the RX 580 can draw 100W more than the 1050Ti under load.

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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Wed May 22, 2019 3:20 pm

Thanks for the input. :) Nah, not decisive. The last thing on my list to start looking for is the PSU, so I will get one that at least matches whatever setup I choose.
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Mauser » Wed May 22, 2019 3:37 pm

In my experience, ATI Radeon runs the best following other AMD's like Vega for second place. Intel is a close third right behind Vega. I wouldn't touch NVIDIA even with a 40 foot pole.
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by JBoman » Wed May 22, 2019 4:07 pm

For an experienced user like yourself I would stick with what you know best. I vote for Nvidea mainly because in the past years I spent good money for 2 different upper end Radeon cards and could never get them configured to work in Linux. As you know installing video cards has gotten pretty easy over the years but I'm partial to Nvidea cause I can always get them to work in Linux. Good Luck! ;)
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Wed May 22, 2019 4:13 pm

JBoman wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 4:07 pm
For an experienced user like yourself I would stick with what you know best. I vote for Nvidea mainly because in the past years I spent good money for 2 different upper end Radeon cards and could never get them configured to work in Linux. As you know installing video cards has gotten pretty easy over the years but I'm partial to Nvidea cause I can always get them to work in Linux. Good Luck! ;)
You are voicing exactly why I would go for the Nvidia. Stick with what you know. I KNOW for a fact that I can handle the Nvidia. Basically it was my first choice, I think I just need to stick to what my gut tells me.

Bummer about the Radeon card experiences!
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Head_on_a_Stick » Wed May 22, 2019 4:36 pm

I have a laptop with an AMD Vega 8 graphics card (same generation as the RX580) and it is very well supported by the amdgpu driver giving significantly better framerates in CS:GO than under Windows 10.

The amdgpu driver has a TearFree option (just like the Intel driver) and it also works very well, no tearing at all for me with fullscreen videos once that option is enabled:

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E485:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf
Section "OutputClass"
        Identifier "AMDgpu"
        MatchDriver "amdgpu"
        Driver "amdgpu"
        Option "TearFree" "true"
EndSection
E485:~$
You may or may not care about the politics but NVIDIA are enemies of the open-source community and do not share anything, AMD on the other hand pay their developers to help out with the open source amdgpu driver and you only need the amdgpu-pro version for OpenCL.

Another factor to bear in mind is that NVIDIA have a habit of dropping support for old cards, if you intend to keep the device for a while.
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm

I have had my current one for 10 years almost.. never had an issue with the support on the card.

The 1050Ti is a very well known and highly regarded card, so I doubt they will drop support for it anytime soon.


Thanks for sharing that tearfree option! If anything it is a good thing to have that info on the forums :)

Also.. I have had issues with that xorg.conf.d and putting stuff in there, as in: no workie. Can't have that of course, and I have no idea if there is a workaround for it that you can put elsewhere on the system? I know the one for Nvidia, in sessions and startup, it's a simple line with code.
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Head_on_a_Stick » Wed May 22, 2019 4:51 pm

Eadwine Rose wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm
I have had issues with that xorg.conf.d and putting stuff in there, as in: no workie.
I just copied the supplied template file from /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf and added the single Option line to get it working so it's pretty simple.

The developers could probably add the method to the mx-tweak tool.
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Wed May 22, 2019 4:57 pm

I wager that folder only appears if you have an AMD gpu on your system. I don't have it after all. :)
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Re: Which of these two video cards works best on MX?

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Post by Head_on_a_Stick » Wed May 22, 2019 5:10 pm

The file is supplied by the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu package.
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