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Small build

If you are having a problem with getting any of your computer's hardware to work with MEPIS or you can't find the right driver, this is the forum to use. It's for newbies and regular users to post questions. Just make sure to post what hardware you are having problems with, in the subject and not just in the post's text area, please.
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Re: Small build

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Post by Stevo » Sun May 11, 2014 2:48 pm

On my HP laptop with an AMD CPU, I have to use the proprietary drivers to get the resume-from-suspend to work correctly. Since you have a different manufacturer, I was wondering if you have it working with the stock radeon drivers that MX uses by default?

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Re: Small build

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Post by Gaer Boy » Sun May 11, 2014 3:07 pm

I have three outstanding problems with the build. I mentioned the HDD LED not working - it's not a biggie for me and it could be that I got the polarity of the plug wrong. I won't know until I go in again to change the disks - it's to difficult to get at that set of headers without removing quite a bit.

I need a bit of advice for another - the case came with two fans - a 120mm exhaust fan alongside the motherboard and a 140mm front intake fan. Unfortunately, the motherboard has only one chassis fan header. I've connected the intake fan at present, but I would like to get both connected. Ideally, they would be connected via the motherboard, so the speed was controlled, but I've not seen a splitter to do this. I'm not sure I've come across a suitable connector to power direct from the psu, either. Anyone have any suggestions - the fans have standard 3-contact plugs.

The UEFI setup wasn't too much of a problem. Secure Boot was disabled by default. I had a few problems trying to boot from USB, but I think that's now OK. It was reluctant to show the USB stick on a warm boot, but is fine on a cold boot. That may not be a correct assessment, but I'll find out as I repeat the process.

The bigger problem is the time setting. I'm on UTC+1 at the moment (BST - British Summer Time). First boot, the time in MX was 2 hours ahead. I made no adjustments in MX, but when I went through the UEFI setup, the clock was about 6 hours out, so I set it correctly. Next boot of MX, it's 1 hour behind. I haven't looked further yet - this is the first machine that has given me any problem with time setting. I will be trying to sort this tomorrow.

So far, I'm very happy with this machine. The quality of the case is excellent and, for a small case, access is very good. The motherboard manual could be clearer in some respects - I'm referring to the downloaded version, which is much better than the printed copy included. If my initial impressions are confirmed, I think this will become my workhorse machine.

Phil

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Re: Small build

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Post by Gaer Boy » Sun May 11, 2014 3:13 pm

Stevo wrote:On my HP laptop with an AMD CPU, I have to use the proprietary drivers to get the resume-from-suspend to work correctly. Since you have a different manufacturer, I was wondering if you have it working with the stock radeon drivers that MX uses by default?
I haven't tried that yet, but I will do so now and report in a few minutes.

(A few minutes later) - The forum refused to let me post so soon, but I've tried suspend and it resumed fine. Which is good for me, because I've been using that most of the time recently - my uptime is 7 days, since I returned from holiday. I'm suspending half a dozen times a day.

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Re: Small build

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Post by timkb4cq » Sun May 11, 2014 3:28 pm

That rig doesn't really need two case fans - but there are ways to use both - maybe not how you wanted to though. Here's a typical chassis fan pin output.

Pin 1 - Ground - Black
Pin 2 - 12v - Yellow
Pin 3 - Sense - Green
Pin 4 - Control - Blue

Connecting up two sense lines will only confuse the motherboard. The other three may be wired together to two fans IFF the header can provide enough current to start up both fans (it takes about twice the running amp draw to start a fan). Unfortunately the manual for that motherboard doesn't say how much current the header will provide.

For a simple quiet connection bypassing those issues you can get 7 volts by going from the red to the yellow wire in a standard old style drive power connector and connect those ot the 12v & gnd wire of one of the fans. It's not controlled, but it doesn't need to be.
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Re: Small build

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Post by namida12 » Sun May 11, 2014 4:21 pm

Gaer Boy wrote:When I went through the UEFI setup, the clock was about 6 hours out, so I set it correctly. Next boot of MX, it's 1 hour behind. I haven't looked further yet - this is the first machine that has given me any problem with time setting. I will be trying to sort this tomorrow.

Phil
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Do I understand correctly: You have MX-14 running in UEFI with large drive support?

JR

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Re: Small build

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Post by chrispop99 » Sun May 11, 2014 4:22 pm

In the UK, the answer to anything to do with cables is a company called Kenable. I think this is what you want:

http://www.kenable.co.uk/product_info.p ... ts_id=2634

Chris
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Re: Small build

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Post by uncle mark » Sun May 11, 2014 4:45 pm

Gaer Boy wrote:
uncle mark wrote:In your case, it would require an over the top reinstall to repair the XP install. That in and of itself is relatively painless. It's the driver installations and the Windows Update cycles you have to go through afterwards that are such a PITA.
Been there, done that! Last time (about 18 months ago) it took 7 hours one day and 3 or 4 the next, and I can't remember how many reboots. I love MX - an hour tops, including all my fiddling.
Preach it, my brutha.
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Re: Small build

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Post by Gaer Boy » Sun May 11, 2014 5:14 pm

timkb4cq wrote:Connecting up two sense lines will only confuse the motherboard. The other three may be wired together to two fans IFF the header can provide enough current to start up both fans (it takes about twice the running amp draw to start a fan). Unfortunately the manual for that motherboard doesn't say how much current the header will provide.

For a simple quiet connection bypassing those issues you can get 7 volts by going from the red to the yellow wire in a standard old style drive power connector and connect those ot the 12v & gnd wire of one of the fans. It's not controlled, but it doesn't need to be.
Thanks, Tim - the second option is physically difficult. I'm using a modular psu and have 2 sata modules taking up the sockets. I could substitute an old molex module and use a molex/sata converter for the optical drive, but it would be a bit messy.

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Re: Small build

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Post by Gaer Boy » Sun May 11, 2014 5:16 pm

chrispop99 wrote:In the UK, the answer to anything to do with cables is a company called Kenable. I think this is what you want:

http://www.kenable.co.uk/product_info.p ... ts_id=2634

Chris
That's a brilliant source, Chris - I'd not come across it before.

Phil

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Re: Small build

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Post by Gaer Boy » Sun May 11, 2014 5:24 pm

namida12 wrote:Do I understand correctly: You have MX-14 running in UEFI with large drive support?

JR
My drives are 250GB & 500GB and MX is running fine with more or less the default UEFI settings. Secure Boot was disabled by default. Full details:
$ inxi -F
System: Host: annesroom Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2
Distro: MX-14 Symbiosis 22 March 2014
Machine: Mobo: ASRock model: FM2A88X-ITX+ Bios: American Megatrends v: P2.10 date: 01/17/2014
CPU: Quad core AMD A8-6500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
Clock Speeds: 1: 1700 MHz 2: 1700 MHz 3: 1700 MHz 4: 1700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ATI Device 990e
Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: fbdev,ati,vesa (unloaded: radeon) Resolution: 1280x1024@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio: Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ATI Trinity HDMI Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v:: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network: Card-1: Atheros Device 10a1 driver: alx
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: d0:50:99:0e:a6:61
Card-2: Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 54:27:1e:1a:5f:dc
Drives: HDD Total Size: 750.2GB (10.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sdb model: SAMSUNG_HD502HJ size: 500.1GB
2: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SP2504C size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 20G used: 2.6G (15%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.99GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 6.2C mobo: N/A gpu: 5.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 158 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 232.2/7012.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.1.7

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