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Really slow browser

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Post by tremara » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:42 am

Hi again, I have been setting up an old (32bit) laptop with Antix....All is good a really smart and intuitive distro. My only issue at the moment is the browser performance is almost non existent. I have tried a couple of browsers including Firefox and the page either do not load or take and age....Reloading the page sometimes works and some sites seem to load better....I added the open dns servers to the connection properties but still no go....My internet speed is over 40mbs down and 20mbs up.....Other devices and computers on this network perform well on this connection.... is there a setting I can tweak to speed it up???.....thanks

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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by JayM » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 am

Hi. Can you run

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inxi -Fxrz
in a terminal then copy and paste the results inside of code tags (the </> key in the forum editor's toolbar)? Thanks.
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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by jj1j1 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:27 am

What brand is your nic? Maybe it's not compatible. I installed the program "nload",

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sudo apt install nload
and it gives you real time throughput of network connection. That can at least rule out a hardware issue. There's also a program called "iftop" that will show you the bandwidth of connections. Both are helpful in deciphering network performance.
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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by tremara » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:03 am

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$ inxi -Fxrz
System:
  Host: MyCoputer Kernel: 4.9.160-antix.2-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
  Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 Distro: antiX-17.4.1_386-full Helen Keller 28 March 2019 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite M70 v: PSM73A-00F007 
  serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: HAZ00/HTW01 v: Null serial: <filter> BIOS: TOSHIBA v: 1.10 
  date: 08/26/2005 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 32.6 Wh condition: 32.6/32.6 Wh (100%) model: TOSHIBA PA3451U 
  status: Unknown 
CPU:
  Topology: Single Core model: Intel Celeron M bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Dothan 
  rev: 8 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 3192 
  Speed: 1596 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 1596 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD RC410M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M] 
  vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:05.0 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
  resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RC410 v: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD IXP SB400 AC97 Audio vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems 
  driver: snd_atiixp v: kernel bus ID: 00:14.5 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.160-antix.2-486-smp 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR2413/AR2414 Wireless Network Adapter [AR5005G 802.11bg] 
  vendor: Askey driver: ath5k v: kernel port: 9000 bus ID: 04:02.0 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter 
  vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: a000 
  bus ID: 04:06.0 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 37.26 GiB used: 3.53 GiB (9.5%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541040G9AT00 size: 37.26 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 34.42 GiB used: 3.53 GiB (10.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://mx.debian.nz/antix/stretch stretch main nosystemd nonfree
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 123 Uptime: 2h 50m Memory: 874.8 MiB used: 118.7 MiB (13.6%) 
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.29 

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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by jj1j1 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:12 am

You can go here;
http://linux-hardware.org/index.php?view=search
and enter your nic info, and see if it is in list.
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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by JayM » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:46 am

Modern web browsers are among the slowest apps there are because of all the features they try to pack in them, making them pretty bloated. You could check out some of the other browsers in the antiX repo to see if any of them are lighter-weight and faster than Firefox, but I don't think you're going to see that much of an improvement.

Your computer has 1GiB of RAM and from a quick web search it looks like it will support 2GB, in two 1GiB DDR2 SODIMMs. If yours only has one 1GiB memory module you can pick up a second one fairly inexpensively on eBay, probably for US$2 to $3 each.. If yours has two 500MiB modules you'll need to get two of the 1GiB ones.

Another thing you could do to speed it up some is to replace the 40GiB hard drive with a 2.5" SSD. That may or may not dramatically improve performance depending on whether you have a SATA1 or SATA2 controller. You should be able to pick up a 50 to 60 gig SSD for under US$20. The combination of the two, or at very least just doubling the RAM, should improve things to where your computer, if not particularly fast, at least isn't painfully slow either.

That is, if you think that it's worth investing any money in upgrades for a computer that old. It shouldn't cost more than $25 to $30 for both the RAM and the solid-state drive.
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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by JayM » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:19 am

JayM wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:46 am
Modern web browsers are among the slowest apps there are because of all the features they try to pack in them, making them pretty bloated. You could check out some of the other browsers in the antiX repo to see if any of them are lighter-weight and faster than Firefox, but I don't think you're going to see that much of an improvement.

Your computer has 1GiB of RAM and from a quick web search it looks like it will support 2GB, in two 1GiB DDR2 SODIMMs. If yours only has one 1GiB memory module you can pick up a second one fairly inexpensively on eBay, probably for US$2 to $3 each.. If yours has two 500MiB modules you'll need to get two of the 1GiB ones.

Another thing you could do to speed it up some is to replace the 40GiB hard drive with a 2.5" SSD. That may or may not dramatically improve performance depending on whether you have a SATA1 or SATA2 controller. You should be able to pick up a 50 to 60 gig SSD for under US$20. The combination of the two, or at very least just doubling the RAM, should improve things to where your computer, if not particularly fast, at least isn't painfully slow either. I have a little old netbook with an Intel Atom 32-bit 1.6GHz CPU that had 1GB of DDR2 RAM and a (dead) 160GB HDD. I doubled the amount of RAM and put a 120GB SSD in it and now it can even run MX without too much of a speed issue, though it's even better now that I've put antiX on it instead.

That is, if you think that it's worth investing any money in upgrades for a computer that old. It shouldn't cost more than $25 to $30 for both the RAM and the solid-state drive.
Oops, I guess I clicked the Reply button instead of the Edit button to add the info about my netbook and I'm ending up talking to myself. It's not being a good day. :smile:
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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by tremara » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:39 pm

Thanks for your advice I have upped the ram no result in the browser speed though....The network device is compatible but I believe it is this device that is throttling my browser performance...I am not sure if there are settings I can tweak...Also there are a lot of settings in Firefox maybe something in there??? If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it....maybe update the driver might help is it possible???....thanks

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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by manyroads » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:53 pm

You might seek info such as this to see what might work...
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/wha ... r-on-linux
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Re: Really slow browser

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Post by JayM » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:47 pm

This thread got me to fire up the old netbook for the first time in two or three weeks just to check it out. I'm using the latest antiX, 17.4.1, with the Frirefox Quantum browser it came with. To me it seems as fast as can be expected on this hardware:

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System:
  Host: averatec Kernel: 4.9.160-antix.2-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
  Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 Distro: antiX-17.4.1_386-full Helen Keller 28 March 2019 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:
  Type: Other-vm? System: AVERATEC product: N1130 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: AVERATEC model: N1130 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix 
  v: NAPA0001.86C.0056.D.0907311757 date: 07/31/09 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 0 Wh condition: 65.3/65.3 Wh (100%) model: AVERATEC N1130 
  status: Unknown 
CPU:
  Topology: Single Core model: Intel Atom N270 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell rev: 2 
  L2 cache: 512 KiB 
  flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 6384 
  Speed: 1067 MHz min/max: 800/1600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1067 2: 1600 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
  resolution: 1024x600~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.160-antix.2-486-smp 
Network:
  Device-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 
  port: 18e0 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
  v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus ID: 04:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 2.91 GiB (2.6%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Gigabyte model: GP-GSTFS31120GNTD size: 111.79 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 107.04 GiB used: 2.87 GiB (2.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 
  ID-2: /boot size: 486.8 MiB used: 40.5 MiB (8.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-1 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 26.8 C mobo: 26.8 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb https://mirror.pregi.net/mx-linux-packages/antix/stretch stretch main nosystemd nonfree
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 152 Uptime: 14m Memory: 1.96 GiB used: 273.8 MiB (13.6%) Init: SysVinit 
  runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.29 
The problem is that saying that your browser is slow is a subjective thing: what seems extremely slow to you may seem not so bad to me, or vice-versa. Maybe we should both time how long it takes from clicking on the web browser menu item to when the default home page, the antiX forum, loads, just for comparison's sake?
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