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hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by namida12 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:46 pm

Am running a flash stick: This is a new to me 2018 built computer - Has a non updated Windows 10 O/S.

I turned off the Secureboot, tried to boot to UEFI with the flash stick, unfortunately it stopped booting a little bit into the process.
An hour later back into Bios enabled Legacy and then it booted rapidly.

I never use windows, thinking about wiping the drive and doing a AntiX install.

Would have liked to used UEFI Booting, but am guessing that is not going to happen since I can not boot without enabling Legacy mode.
Guessing I can do a legacy GPT format to have more than 4 partitions?

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hp envy 17t-bw000

$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.160-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 
           Distro: antiX-17.4.1_x64-full Helen Keller 28 March 2019 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP ENVY Laptop 17-bw0xxx v: Type1ProductConfigId serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: HP model: 8485 v: 71.27 serial: <root required> UEFI: Insyde v: F.14 date: 06/20/2018 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.7 Wh condition: 51.7/51.7 Wh (100%) 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8550U bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           Speed: 807 MHz min/max: 400/4000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 807 2: 1321 3: 800 4: 1880 5: 3002 6: 3028 7: 810 
           8: 2584 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] driver: N/A 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Kabylake GT1.5 v: 4.5 Mesa 13.0.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.160-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: f4:39:09:29:c4:2a 
           Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 38:ba:f8:98:5d:f5 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.04 TiB used: 1003.1 MiB (0.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM049-2GH172 size: 931.51 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: MZNLN128HAHQ-000H1 size: 119.24 GiB 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Patriot model: Memory size: 14.45 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.13 GiB used: 1.1 MiB (0.0%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C mobo: 41.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 190 Uptime: 17m Memory: 11.49 GiB used: 245.0 MiB (2.1%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.29 
demo@antix1:~


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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by JayM » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:42 pm

Since you still have windows you can download and run Rufus to burn the antiX ISO to your USB stick. You may possibly have to tell Rufus to use a gpt partition table on the USB for it to be able to boot in UEFI on your system. Rufus is pretty good at making UEFI-bootable USBs.

An msdos partition table supports having up to 15 partitions while gpt supports something like 256 IIRC, so even if you end up having to install in legacy mode four partitions shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by fehlix » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:22 am

namida12 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Guessing I can do a legacy GPT format to have more than 4 partitions?
To install GRUB into MBR of a GPT formatted drive it is highly recommended that you create at the beginning of that GPT disk a tinny,small 1MB "bios_grub" partition. Do this with Gparted before you create any other partition. Size 1Mb leave the partition un-formatted but mark the partition as "bios_grub". A GPT formatted drive has a couple of advantages over DOS/legacy formatted drives. But in order to have a robust Grub-install into the MBR of the GPT drive it is required to prepare the drive with such an extra small bios_grub partition. You can have up to 128 primary partitions on a GPT drive.
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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by namida12 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:26 pm

fehlix wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:22 am
namida12 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Guessing I can do a legacy GPT format to have more than 4 partitions?
To install GRUB into MBR of a GPT formatted drive it is highly recommended that you create at the beginning of that GPT disk a tinny,small 1MB "bios_grub" partition. Do this with Gparted before you create any other partition. Size 1Mb leave the partition un-formatted but mark the partition as "bios_grub". A GPT formatted drive has a couple of advantages over DOS/legacy formatted drives. But in order to have a robust Grub-install into the MBR of the GPT drive it is required to prepare the drive with such an extra small bios_grub partition. You can have up to 128 primary partitions on a GPT drive.
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fehlix,

Did not know to leave a 1MB "bios_grub" partition for a gpt formatted SSD/hard drive. I will try it on this install, but was certainly disappointed I could not do a UEFI install in this computer using the antiX created Flash Stick. Could not even boot antiX, or MX in UEFI mode, after turning off Secureboot in bios in this HP Laptop with a flash drive...

JayM, I never use windows unless I am getting well paid to eliminate malware. The Idea of using Rufus to create a flash drive for antiX, or other Linux will never happen. But thank you for the suggestion.

JR

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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by fehlix » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:52 pm

namida12 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:26 pm
Did not know to leave a 1MB "bios_grub" partition for a gpt formatted SSD/hard drive.
Now you do, it's never to late :lipsrsealed:
namida12 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:26 pm
I will try it on this install, but was certainly disappointed I could not do a UEFI install in this computer using the antiX created Flash Stick. Could not even boot antiX, or MX in UEFI mode, after turning off Secureboot in bios in this HP Laptop with a flash drive...
We could certainly fix this too. But you would need to provide detailed information about this "Could not even boot antiX, or MX in UEFI mode". I might have an idea, that this might be potentially related to a fixed bug within the UEFI-grub, which will be sorted in antiX/MX 19. OTOH, legacy BOOT with a nice GPT-disk and a bios_grub partition is also sans soucis, so to say.
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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by namida12 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:48 pm

I downloaded antix-19-b3 and tried to wipe the drive and install.

Gparted partitions looked good, including 100MB fat 32 partition.

On reboot windows came up haven't a clue where from if i can believe Gparted?

However on the install there were windows NTFS format choices , but I used the entire drive, and Gparted does not show any NTFS partitions...

Maybe i need to run dban from a CD to properly eliminate any hidden partitions in the hard drive? Not certain where windows O/S is hiding.

JR

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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by fehlix » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:32 pm

namida12 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:48 pm
I downloaded antix-19-b3 and tried to wipe the drive and install.

Gparted partitions looked good, including 100MB fat 32 partition.
Probably, the 100MB fat32 is the UEFI ESP partition, which still contains WinOS UEFI bootloader.
And booting in UEFI will show the WinOS boot.
I guess, you need to either boot in BIOS(legacy)mode, and create a new partition MSDOS-table before creating new partions and install in BIOS mode ..
or keep the drive with GPT-partion table type to boot in UEFI mode , but do some house keeping and "clear" the content of old entries within the FAT32 ESP.
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Re: hp envy 17t-bw000 with AntiX

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Post by namida12 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:49 am

Felix wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:32 pm
namida12 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:48 pm
I downloaded antix-19-b3 and tried to wipe the drive and install.

Gparted partitions looked good, including 100MB fat 32 partition.
Probably, the 100MB fat32 is the UEFI ESP partition, which still contains WinOS UEFI bootloader.
And booting in UEFI will show the WinOS boot.
I guess, you need to either boot in BIOS(legacy)mode, and create a new partition MSDOS-table before creating new partions and install in BIOS mode ..
or keep the drive with GPT-partion table type to boot in UEFI mode , but do some house keeping and "clear" the content of old entries within the FAT32 ESP.
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Felix,

Sorry so late to reply about this Laptop...
Will keep trying, but switch to legacy I can boot live USB easily. Switch hard drive to a gpt format and this silly system boots to "windows sign-in". I am going to run dban, later tonight and see if I can clean this windows boot that must be hiding someplace, Cmos I haven't a clue with HP Laptop win10 install...

JR

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