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Netbook with Atom CPU

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Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by JayM » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:29 am

I just resurrected my wife's 10-year-old cheap netbook with a first-gen Atom CPU and 1GB of RAM by swapping out its dead hard drive for the one from the other dead laptop (with a broken fan and big dead spot on the screen) and installing the 32-bit version of MX-18.2. It's kind of on the slow side but it runs and it's fun to play with. I plan to use it for a spare computer in case anything happens with my desktop. It was just a fun little project to see how a stock MX installation would run on this little old gutless wonder, and it does surprisingly well considering the hardware. I'm going by ancient memory here but I think it's no slower than it was with the Windows XP it originally came with. It never has been exactly a speed demon.

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System:    Host: averatec Kernel: 4.19.0-1-686-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.2_386 Continuum Apr 7  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Other-vm? System: AVERATEC product: N1130 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: AVERATEC model: N1130 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix 
           v: NAPA0001.86C.0056.D.0907311757 date: 07/31/09 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 0 Wh condition: 1.3/2.1 Wh (61%) model: AVERATEC N1130 
           status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Single Core model: Intel Atom N270 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell rev: 2 
           L2 cache: 512 KiB 
           flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 6384 
           Speed: 863 MHz min/max: 800/1600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 863 2: 1358 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1024x600~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.2.6 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-686-pae 
Network:   Device-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 
           port: 18e0 bus ID: 02:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 04:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 4.76 GiB (1.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 455.45 GiB used: 4.67 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 92.0 MiB (4.5%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.deace.id/mxlinux/antix/stretch/ stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devrepo.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ mx18 dev
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.deace.id/mxlinux/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 175 Uptime: 19m Memory: 928.8 MiB used: 404.0 MiB (43.5%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33 
The battery won't take a charge, the shift keys on its keyboard don't work, neither does its touchpad, and the Korean company that made it went bankrupt in 2012 so there are no more parts, drivers or BIOS updates available, but it's better than no computer at all, even if I do have to set the date and time in BIOS every time I turn it on.
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by JayM » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:15 am

Nope. There's only one removable panel on the bottom and all that's exposed are the hard drive, RAM and wifi card. This is a really cheap piece of junk so it may not even have a CMOS battery, instead just using the system batteries for all I know. I'd have to take the entire case apart to confirm though.
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by mxer » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:46 am

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(Posted in the wrong thread.)
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by KBD » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:29 pm

I had 3 old netbooks from around 2009, 2 Acer KAV60/D250 and a D255 Acer. They upgraded to a max 2gb ram.

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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by JayM » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:19 pm

@KBD: I'm not sure if it's really worth spending money on that netbook but I have, or used to have if the Mrs. didn't throw them away, a couple of 2GB DDR2 DODIMMs around here someplace but I haven't been able to unearth them. If I ever come across those guys I may try one in the netbook and see if I get a beep code or not, but otherwise I'll just leave it as-is as I don't want to invest money in it.

@Bluesguy: I had the hard drive in and out several times while I was trying different hard drives from my junk stash to see if any of them were any good, then again when I decided to use the 500GB drive from the HP Pavilion dv6 that needs repair, and you know, I never noticed if there was a CMOS battery under it so I couldn't tell you if it's there or not. I'll add looking under the HDD for it to my to-do list. The hard part would be finding a replacement if it's a non-standard battery, like a watch or hearing aid battery. Meanwhile I've just been leaving its AC adapter plugged in all the time.
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by JayM » Thu May 02, 2019 1:39 am

-Bah! I finally found my 2GB SODIIMs and they're DDR3, not DDR2 like I thought. I have to go to a mall tomorrow that has a few computer stores in it so I'll see what I can find there, but DDR2 memory is getting harder and harder to find locally: everything's DDR3 or DDR4.
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by mxer » Thu May 02, 2019 4:30 am

I bought my DDR2 ram sticks second hand online, at the time people were either throwing them, or nearly giving them away, probably be a bit harder to find now, but worth a look, I'd think. :)
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by JayM » Sat May 04, 2019 1:44 am

Very odd. Thursday when I tried one of the 2GB SODIMMs in the netbook the BIOS splash screen didn't even display, and the stickers on the modules say they're PC3 which I thought meant DDR3. But I just went to repackage the two modules in their original packages with the intent to sell them when I noticed that the packages say 2GB DDR2 800 in large letters, so I tried installing one again and this time it worked! This is a very odd little computer. It's much happier with 2GB of RAM though, much less laggy.

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System:    Host: netbook Kernel: 4.19.0-1-686-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.2_386 Continuum Apr 7  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Other-vm? System: AVERATEC product: N1130 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: AVERATEC model: N1130 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix 
           v: NAPA0001.86C.0056.D.0907311757 date: 07/31/09 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 0 Wh condition: 1.3/2.1 Wh (61%) model: AVERATEC N1130 
           status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Single Core model: Intel Atom N270 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell rev: 2 
           L2 cache: 512 KiB 
           flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 6384 
           Speed: 1302 MHz min/max: 800/1600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1330 2: 1330 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1024x600~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.2.6 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-686-pae 
Network:   Device-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 
           port: 18e0 bus ID: 02:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 04:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 4.83 GiB (1.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 209.38 GiB used: 4.83 GiB (2.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devrepo.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ mx18 dev
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mirror.pregi.net/mx-linux-packages/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 165 Uptime: 9m Memory: 1.90 GiB used: 491.3 MiB (25.3%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33 
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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by KBD » Sat May 04, 2019 11:29 am

Glad to hear you could upgrade the ram. That will make it much more enjoyable to use :)

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Re: Netbook with Atom CPU

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Post by JayM » Sat May 18, 2019 7:26 am

Having a USB pendrive set aside, with a snapshot of my installed MX-18.2 burned to it, I decided to test several 32-bit distros: Peppermint 10, Sparky Linux 4.10-i686, Zorin OS 12.4 Lite and Linux Lite 3.8 (which is the last version they offered in 32-bit.) Sparky wouldn't even boot: kernel panic, couldn't uncompress or access (or something) the file system. The rest seemed slower than MX, just running them in demo mode from a USB: slower than MX on a live USB anyway.

Then I went ahead and tried antiX 17.4.1 Helen Keller in live USB mode with persistence. It's so speedy on this netbook that I decided to go ahead and install it. It will give me a system on which to learn my way around antiX and see how a pure antiX installation does things, which I reckon will help me learn even more about MX, just like running Debian in a virtual machine did on my desktop PC. Plus, I think this low-end machine may be more antiX material than MX material as antiX seems to run as fast, installed, on the netbook with an Inter Atom 1.6GHz processor and 2GB of RAM as MX on the Athlon dual-core 2.6GHz with 8GB of RAM, both systems having 120GB SSDs and DDR2-800 DIMMs. More (antiX) fun to come!
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