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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by Adrian » Thu May 30, 2019 8:16 pm

I experimented with Firefox for a number of month now I switched back to Chrome, I cannot say I see any advantage of one over the other they are pretty interchangeable (at least for me) if something like that happens I would switch in a second to Firefox, but till they I will take everything that reports in the future tense with a FUD grain of salt.

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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by KBD » Thu May 30, 2019 8:51 pm

Not FUD Adrian. And not even new, except their dev is confirming the change won't affect Google Enterprise users at the highest price range of $25 per user per month of G-Suite.

From Ublock Origin Dev:
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock- ... -496009417

From several mainstream news sites:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/368700/googl ... d-blockers
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing ... ne-is-mad/
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-holds- ... -blockers/
https://lifehacker.com/the-best-browser ... 1835130559

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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by richb » Thu May 30, 2019 9:25 pm

Since there are other methods like the hosts file this does not concern me. I am a Google Chrome user. I have tried most of the other browser options. Opera comes close to my liking. Not likely to change.
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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by figueroa » Thu May 30, 2019 10:36 pm

So Chrome's position is to "limits the amount of sensitive browser data shared with third parties." That's a very low standard. Don't use it. Claw back control of the Internet by Google, one step at a time.
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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by Adrian » Thu May 30, 2019 10:44 pm

KBD wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:51 pm
Not FUD Adrian.
This is all crap about "future", might or might not happen. My point is, in the moment they disable uBlock I will switch to Firefox, till then for me this is just Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) and I don't take actions based on that, I take actions based on facts not on what might or might not happen, so... I don't say this is not correct, but call me back when it happens.

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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by Stevo » Fri May 31, 2019 1:14 am

Will that affect Chromium? If the va-api patch I'm going to try and rebuild it with, plus its current support of mp4 h.264 codecs and the widevine (Netflix) DRM now, it might rival Firefox. I'll certainly watch all video on my laptop on battery in it if I can get the GPU to handle the video instead of the CPU.

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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by KBD » Fri May 31, 2019 1:17 am

Stevo wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 1:14 am
Will that affect Chromium? If the va-api patch I'm going to try and rebuild it with, plus its current support of mp4 h.264 codecs and the widevine (Netflix) DRM now, it might rival Firefox. I'll certainly watch all video on my laptop on battery in it if I can get the GPU to handle the video instead of the CPU.
From what info I have gathered it will affect Chromium, ChromeOS, and ChromiumOS (Cloud Ready). I think Microsoft is going to wish it built its new browser on Firefox before everything is through.

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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by JayM » Fri May 31, 2019 2:16 am

KBD wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 1:17 am
Stevo wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 1:14 am
Will that affect Chromium? If the va-api patch I'm going to try and rebuild it with, plus its current support of mp4 h.264 codecs and the widevine (Netflix) DRM now, it might rival Firefox. I'll certainly watch all video on my laptop on battery in it if I can get the GPU to handle the video instead of the CPU.
From what info I have gathered it will affect Chromium, ChromeOS, and ChromiumOS (Cloud Ready). I think Microsoft is going to wish it built its new browser on Firefox before everything is through.
I thought Chromium was open source?
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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by KBD » Fri May 31, 2019 9:55 am

JayM wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 2:16 am

I thought Chromium was open source?
Here is some info.
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.or ... %5B1-25%5D
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock- ... issues/338

From everything I've read Chromium will have this manifest v3 change. And the browsers that depend upon it. The only way to avoid it appears to be someone forking Chromium. Extensions/adblocks will still be possible as I understand it, but crippled and nearly useless. From UO dev's comments he is not going to cripple his ad-blocker for the new Chrome manifest v3. The change is clearly to allow more Google web ads and tracking to go through.
Edit: to give an idea how effective Ublock Origin is, on an install just a few months old over 37,000 web requests were blocked on Chrome on my computer.

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Re: Bad News For Chrome Users

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Post by JayM » Fri May 31, 2019 10:58 am

I was going to say there's nothing to stop anyone from rolling back Google's Chromium source code changes or forking the Chromium project.
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