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Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by KBD » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:15 pm

With Father's Day almost here there is talk in the news about how skills have changed with the generations, with Millennials more likely to hire someone than to fix things themselves.
https://nypost.com/2019/06/06/millennia ... y-boomers/

We didn't have the money, nor did we even consider hiring anyone to fix things for us if we could do it ourselves. And it wasn't because we all had dads around, half my friends were being raised by their mothers. We pooled our skills, found someone who knew how to do things and learned from them.
It's crazy how things have changed. A 5 minute youtube video can show you how to fix just about anything, but too many young people don't even consider fixing things themselves.

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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:27 pm

I have always fixed everything myself if I could. Back when I was still working I have hung a number of lamps, changed fuses, put new plugs on wires and all that stuff.

At home I have put in my own terrace, built the enclosure for the cats together with my mate, and back before I was married (we're talking 90s here now) we even fixed our own car. I once cleaned out the injector. Took it completely apart, but at the end of the day it was back together and it worked. It was normal to do that back in the day. We didn't have any money to hire someone to fix things.. and my dad could put a new plug on and that was just about it. Learned more from my ex husband than anyone else really hahaha.

There is this magic of doing something yourself. Sure there is stress too (clearly visible in my computer build thread), but the feeling of accomplishment when you've done something and it works.. gold!
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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by KBD » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:35 pm

Good for you Eadwine :)
We all changed our own oil, replaced spark plugs, even changed water pump & alternator and belts.
In defense of Millennials, there has been more of a move toward universal DRM on everything to prevent people from fixing things themselves (Apple!). We should never have let these companies pull that garbage, and it has been automobiles, tech, all sorts of things.

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Post by Head_on_a_Stick » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:04 pm

I'm 45 and I can't DIY at all, it's embarrassing :bagoverhead:
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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by KBD » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:49 pm

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:04 pm
I'm 45 and I can't DIY at all, it's embarrassing :bagoverhead:
It's never too late to learn :)

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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by turtlebay777 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:46 pm

KBD wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:35 pm
toward universal DRM on everything to prevent people from fixing things themselves (Apple!). We should never have let these companies pull that garbage, and it has been automobiles, tech, all sorts of things.
We did not have any say about what those companies did!

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Post by jj1j1 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:58 pm

I think, in a way, it's innovation itself that makes life more difficult. Take "innovative" business practices for instance. Innovation has this glamorous facade of making life easier or interesting, and some of the products out there are very interesting, or rather addicting/distracting, but innovation in business is what feeds their machine. We are living that right now. Look at big tech. They have created innovative ways to trap a consumer into distraction, while at the same time archiving all the personal data they can. Then in turn they formulate innovating ways to profit from that personal data. All the while requiring compliance to there innovation per the EULA.
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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by KBD » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:03 pm

turtlebay777 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:46 pm
KBD wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:35 pm
toward universal DRM on everything to prevent people from fixing things themselves (Apple!). We should never have let these companies pull that garbage, and it has been automobiles, tech, all sorts of things.
We did not have any say about what those companies did!
It would take political will and agencies tasked with protecting consumers to demand the right to repair which Apple has fought against tooth-and-nail even hitting little repair shops with big lawsuits, but I don't want this thread drift over into politics.
Edit: here is more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroni ... _to_repair
https://repair.org/stand-up
https://ifixit.org/blog/13003/right-to-repair-2019/

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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by tascoast » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:34 pm

Necessity is a good, but not exclusive, motivation. I learned a lot keeping my first, already quite old, car running. Replacing many components, from exhaust to fuel pumps to brake seals, then eventually the whole motor into a newly repaired and painted body prepared me for getting a working pc from second-hand parts in a sense.
Older designs of machinery and electronics often took into account maintenance and repair. The conical stud axle bearing, for example, permits tightening as surfaces wear, for instance.
Be careful however, as home repairs and renovations account for a lot of accidents, injury and even fatalities. One of the hidden risks Downunder is a second wave of asbestos-related disease associated with the increase in owner renovations. Many homes have hidden asbestos that is often not identified or is handles incorrectly, causing mesothelioma and eventual death.
There are a few groups that offer community repair shop style options for motivated individuals to obtain advice, support and encouragement, pooling experience.
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Re: Millennial Dads and DIY

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Post by KBD » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:48 pm

tascoast wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:34 pm
Be careful however, as home repairs and renovations account for a lot of accidents, injury and even fatalities. One of the hidden risks Downunder is a second wave of asbestos-related disease associated with the increase in owner renovations. Many homes have hidden asbestos that is often not identified or is handles incorrectly, causing mesothelioma and eventual death.
There are a few groups that offer community repair shop style options for motivated individuals to obtain advice, support and encouragement, pooling experience.
That's a good warning.
I try to be realistic about what I can repair and tear into. I have a background in electronics, so I'm very comfortable tearing apart tech stuff. Less so with appliances, so I gather as much info as possible before messing with anything of that nature. Electricity is not something to play with. I installed a couple of ceiling fans awhile back. I shut down power to the entire house and used a digital meter to test for any voltage before touching anything.

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