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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by colin_b » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:43 pm

Version: 18.3
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Date: 2019-08-28
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Mx does not handle my printer settings correctly while other distros do. Consequently, I do not use it.
Has the issue in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyB1SPGaXcw been addressed in MX 19? If not, could the solution put forward in the video be added to MX Tools?

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:47 pm

colin_b wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:43 pm
Version: 18.3
Rating: 7
Date: 2019-08-28
Votes: 0

Mx does not handle my printer settings correctly while other distros do. Consequently, I do not use it.
Has the issue in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyB1SPGaXcw been addressed in MX 19? If not, could the solution put forward in the video be added to MX Tools?
the "issue" is that the user needed to use hp-setup, which is included on MX and always has been.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad T530 - MX-18.3
lenovo s21e - antiX-19 beta 2 (live-USB)
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by colin_b » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:04 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:47 pm
the "issue" is that the user needed to use hp-setup, which is included on MX and always has been.
I found it in the whisker menu when I typed the full "hp-setup" in the search box, but it doesn't seem to have its own entry in the whisker menu. Could one be added so that it could be easily found by simply typing "hp"?

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by Stevo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:01 pm

zorzi wrote:
IMO, MX could more rely on Debian ressources/apps. For example, some apps (Thunderbird, VLC...) are doubly proposed whereas, in the same time, other packages like MX kernels and LibreOffice 6 have not received updates for a while.
Are you aware of the numerous backported Debian and Liquorix kernels we have in the test repos? We have the Debian 5.2.9 kernel in there right now, for example.

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by zorzi » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:31 pm

Stevo wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:01 pm
zorzi wrote:
IMO, MX could more rely on Debian ressources/apps. For example, some apps (Thunderbird, VLC...) are doubly proposed whereas, in the same time, other packages like MX kernels and LibreOffice 6 have not received updates for a while.
Are you aware of the numerous backported Debian and Liquorix kernels we have in the test repos? We have the Debian 5.2.9 kernel in there right now, for example.
Hello Stevo,

Sorry if my words were tactless. I need to clarify.

I just think that there are lot of "double" packages. Maybe MX could target less packages when some of them are available in Debian repos. For instance, Debian-backports could provide 4.19 kernels for MX18 and LO updates (like Neptune does, for instance).

For instance, and from what I saw, MX 19 beta mainly relies on Debian packages actually (but I'm conscious this is just the beginning).

I also have a suggestion for the future: keep three MXPI repos categories (Stable for debian packages only, MX repo for MX packages, and Debian Backports). I'm not really convinced with the "test" repo. Most of its packages do not reach MX stable repo.

What do you think about that ? (I hope I'm not talking nonsense... ;) )

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by SwampRabbit » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:02 pm

zorzi wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:31 pm
I also have a suggestion for the future: keep three MXPI repos categories (Stable for debian packages only, MX repo for MX packages, and Debian Backports). I'm not really convinced with the "test" repo. Most of its packages do not reach MX stable repo.
I don't agree, I think MX Test Repo needs to stay. There are many packages in there that are NOT from Debian Backports, the devs create these packages specifically for us.
Many of them are tweaked and tuned specifically to work for MX.

While many of the Test Repo packages don't get moved to the Main Repo, IMO there are several reasons.
1. No one tests them enough and provides feedback
2. Some of these seem to be fast moving packages which get updated pretty often

If you look at all the packages that are not MX specific packages, both in the Main and Test Repos you'll see that many of them have "mx" in the name.
These packages aren't simply just moved from Debian or Debian Backports.

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by colin_b » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:02 pm

Version: 19-beta2.1
Rating: 7
Date: 2019-09-13
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I like the new fresh look, very very nice. I would have installed if there had been driver for RTL8821CE wireless. At this point I am using Manjajo because AUR has a driver for this wlan chip. I have alvays liked MXlinux but at this point I have to say that Manjaro feels quite nice. Maybe I would be using MX if there was a RTL8821CE driver. Yes I am a noob on all this so... I am somewhat terrified on using Arch based system but it just works and like I said, there was a driver in repos for my wlan. Sure this is no problem for advanced users.

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by sunrat » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:24 pm

Sounds like he needed a wifi driver, only mentioned it four times! :p
First hit when searching for that driver name was a Github page with simple instructions how to install it with DKMS.

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by Stuart_MSi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:58 am

Stevo wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:28 pm
I wonder if any Thinkpad users here can reproduce that, or if this is more of the same FUD about errors that no one else seems to get.

We did have a 2018.2019 MSI gaming laptop user say on the Debian forums that TLP would cause random lockups on MX until it was uninstalled...


That was me!

Thanks for your help :).

So far good Distro, easy to use. But TLP would cause my MSi GE63 8RE (8750H + GTX1060) laptop to freeze when you either unplugged it/plugged it in (can't remember which), you could see in the Kernel log.

I uninstalled it and solved the problem.

Reinstalled and #'d out all the settings in TLP, I'm gradually putting it back to how it was to see which line of code is causing the freeze...

Problem now is TLP works on boot and I can see I have 4 hours battery etc. even when the CPU is set to run at full clock speed if it needs to!

But after waking from suspend, TLP doesn't work.I looked it up and typed in a few commands to start it but they have no effect.

I haven't put all the settings back to default as of yet, so that could still be the issue...

I've put a lot of the main settings back to normal though but I don't think tlp's doing anything, after waking from suspend

Powertop works but will only give me 2.30 hours. That's fine but I want to know how to 'fire up' tlp and get it to work please?

My first post here so perhaps you could give me some pointers? Many thanks

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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles

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Post by JayM » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:20 am

So it was YOU!!!1!!one!! :happy:

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