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thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by winemaker » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:19 pm

sorry for yet another question. i am finding thet my laptop is running much hotter since i installed MX18.3 the other day. is there anyway to tone down the heat?

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System:    Host: zen Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 3626F5U v: ThinkPad X201 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 3626F5U serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 6QET46WW (1.16 ) 
           date: 06/07/2010 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 44.6 Wh condition: 45.5/48.8 Wh (93%) model: JingYi 08K8193 
           status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 540 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           rev: 2 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20217 
           Speed: 1686 MHz min/max: 1199/2534 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1315 2: 1329 3: 1367 
           4: 1330 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.6 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k 
           port: 1820 bus ID: 00:19.0 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 1880 
           bus ID: 02:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 14.36 GiB (4.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS725032A9A364 size: 298.09 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 290.41 GiB used: 14.36 GiB (4.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1991 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 277 Uptime: 17h 54m Memory: 3.66 GiB used: 841.7 MiB (22.5%) 
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33 
thank you. have not used my other thinkpad enough yet see what is going on there or with my wife's dell either. the daily one get hot rather quickly. so not that it is ON all day long. in suspend a lot. generally - listening to a music stream and working on some internet stuff here on the forums or other news stuff or else i may have an LO Writer file open. that is it - 2 things -2 tabs.


i just looked at the report and it was not taken with the heat when it is hot but cooler. so temp is not accurate representation of how hot it is when it really gets hot.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by winemaker » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:53 pm

runs at 60 degrees C. or even hotter. i have been checking iy and trying to run it a bit at the moment. i will post back when i get a hot session going. thank you.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by penguin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:37 am

Hmmm. I have used MX Linux for years on this laptop.No any problem. I gifted to some one that still MX Linux on it. No any issue. Check your processes. Use Htop or XFCE Task Manager.

I will suggest also to open and clean fan and apply thermic paste on it. It is a great laptop. You can run MX Linux from a SD Card on it. Runs perfect.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by j2mcgreg » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:20 am

It seems that the thermal compound used in that laptop model does not always last as long as it should. There are also reports that the fan may need replacement -- see here:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X ... d-p/791715

Here's a video on disassembling and cleaning the Lenovo X201

Before proceeding with a repair like this myself, I always ask a local repair shop for a quote first --it may be more cost / time effective to have them do it.
HP ProBook 450 G5; CPU Intel i5; 500GB HDD; Intel UHD 620 Graphics; 8 GB Ram

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by winemaker » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:25 pm

thanks so much for the info! yes i do find it weird - was running great until the install so it seems like i should have noticed this prior to install. starnge eh?

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by Stevo » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:15 pm

Is it just as bad on a Live session, or a Live session of some other distro, or with a different kernel in MX? You also might check to see if the fans are coming on at the same temperature points in the different distros.

You might also have some problem with tlp (preinstalled in MX), or a thinkpad-specific module in the kernel being loaded automatically but not doing what it's supposed to.

The repo also has a program called thinkfan that may allow you fine control of the fan if it's not coming on soon enough.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by winemaker » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:22 pm

the fan does run and seems to be working . also what am i looking for in htop? sorry - just never really got into htop before though i know it existed.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by Stevo » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:27 pm

Look for something eating up the CPU cycles. Ordinarily the system should only be using a few percent of the CPU at most when just idling along. We are looking for something that could be stressing the CPU without your knowledge.It doesn't have to be that, but we are eliminating the possibilities.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by penguin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:46 pm

winemaker wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:22 pm
the fan does run and seems to be working . also what am i looking for in htop? sorry - just never really got into htop before though i know it existed.
The fan can be verified easily if working or not. You can hear the sound of it. Are you sure that is 60 Celsius degree or more? Put your hand in the right side of the laptop? Can you fell the air coming out ? It is really hot? How you measure the temperature by XFCE sensor. Are you sure that you have chosen the right one ?

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can you distinguish that it also a value of 127 degree ? It is display always the same value.

I use the first table.

and what my conky report is

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Check your Task Manager . MIne as follow.

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I will recommend to install Opera or Slimjet as browser. You will see the difference.

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Re: thinkpad running hotter than normal with MX

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Post by winemaker » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:10 pm

thanks you all for your help - need a shower - been a long day in the vineyard and garden. then i will try to get some laptop work done and see what is going on.. yes you can hear the fan and temp is from the output i posted earlier - nice app mx has too in that feature.

i want you al to know - not bashing MX - very pleased actually. just know my laptop and this is really peculiar. just a neophyte trying to iron out a few hiccups as such. so please forgive.

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